<VV> Synthetic oil, types , uses & seal compatability
Silveyyevlis@aol.com
Silveyyevlis@aol.com
Fri, 7 Jan 2005 23:18:52 EST
Few people using synthetic lubricants realize that there are at least two
basic types of synthetic lubricants. The lowest priced and probably the most
commonly used one is Mobile ONE. ( there are other names but I don't recall
them) This type is made of regular petroleum oil but the molecular structure
or chains are modified by the addition mainly of carbon and other elements.
They are called pumped up hydrocarbons by some chemists.
These lubricants are very good but their characteristics are not good as the
true synthetics that are used in high temperature applications. I do not
have much experience with Mobile One except in my portable air compressor where
I have had no problems. Mobile One probably is better for the production
Corvair oil seals since it is basically a petroleum oil.
The other synthetic lubricant is called an ester based synthetic which is
made from ester alcohol. It is what is used in almost all turbine engines
especially those that are flying. and many other high temperature applications.
I first used the ester based oil in my 67
Monza at 90,000 plus miles and cut the oil consumption by at least half.
Ester based oils are not completely compatible with most automotive seal
materials. In my 67 I had no more seal problems than I had with regular petroleum
oil. Also, when the temperature dropped to minus 35 degrees in central
Indiana our 67 Corvair was the only vehicle in the community that started.
However, my experience with an Allison turbine engine where we used the lowest
cost but satisfactory seal material with petroleum oil we had no problems until
we changed to ester based aircraft oil. By checking in a Parker seal
materials catalog I found that the two most common seal materials that are
compatible with the ester based oils are Viton and silicon. We used Viton and
eliminated the seal leak problem. Now you know why I bugged the Corvair suppliers to
get Viton crank seals for the Corvair.
My 67 Monza was stored from 1989 until 2003. With fresh fuel it started with
no problems except the crank shaft seals leaked (not Viton). The brakes,
with synthetic brake fluid, worked as good as when it was put in. Six other
Corvairs stored with the 67 had no brakes.
If I were to ever get to my 66 turbo convert ready to run it will be run on
ester based oil and that will be Mobile Delvac II (two) or equivalent.
The oils on the market that are a mixture of synthetic and petroleum oil are
no doubt good but I have no experience with them. I called the producers of
Valvoline and was informed that their mixture of synthetic and petroleum
oils did not use ester based oil.
Ams synthetic oil is an ester based oil and is probably as good as any
available ( a little costly though). However, I have used their oil some but
have used their synthetic grease ever since it became available and use it on
everything that needs grease.
A WORD OF WARNING!
DO NOT get ester based oil on your paint or in your generator or
starter--it does a great job of removing paint and electrical insulation.
Hope this helps some one, Tom Silvey