<VV> E-85 (is it the anti-fuel of the devil?) plus car conversion links... nearly vair (volkswagon), jetting too....

[werp knarly]

don't be to sure about that... ethanol is not corrosive(acid), its a solvent. modern car's computers that are not 'e85' are not programmed to run e85,   if your corvair carbs have ever been rebuilt, they should have gaskets that will stand up to ethanol

http://terrasol.home.igc.org/alky/alky.htm
(With Specific Instructions for Air-Cooled Volkswagens)"

http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel_library.html#drane
great site, nearly everything you might want to know, it does look like biodiesel is better than ethanol, but a 110 head's might not take the required compression...

  The Ford Model T was originally designed to burn alcohol, gasoline or a combination of both. However, Ford and other manufactures soon bowed to the intense pressure exerted by the emerging oil monopolies of the time and began designing motors with gasoline as the only intended fuel.

http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel_library/ethanol_drane.html
convert your dodge dart... (E100 not E85) for $36.79, with a mileage loss 20%, at that rate $2 E85 would equal $2.50 dino-fuel. hay that's a savings!
                HAY!!! +40% for jetting on 100% alcohol!
        Original Jet Diameter 0.62 
        Increase Jet Diameter By 40% For Alcohol x 1.4
        248 
        Correct Jet Diameter For Alcohol ÷ 062
        .0868 

Thanks!

Joe, Lisa, Teegan, and Mina
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jim Burkhard" <burkhard at rochester.rr.com>
To: "'Chuck Kubin'" <dreamwoodck at yahoo.com>; <VirtualVairs at corvair.org>
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2005 10:21 PM
Subject: RE: <VV> E-85


> Are you crazy?  You can't put E85 in a car that is not designed to run it!
> 
> First, your fueling will be grossly wrong.  You need much larger jets for
> the E85.  The volumetric flow rate needs to go up a lot for E85.
> Second, you will destroy in very short order ever elastomer (rubbery bit) in
> your fuel system.  Ethanol is nasty to many rubbers and the Vair's fuel
> system is not designed to handle it.
> Third, you risk corroding the hell out of all the metal bits in your fuel
> system. Ethanol is very corrosive.  The OEMs use all stainless steel fuel
> tanks, special lines, special injectors (no cabs anymore).  
> 
> You cannot run E85 in your unmodified car without damaging it.
> 
> Jim Burkhard
> 
> 
> 
>> I have a Corvair. I have a gas station nearby that has
>> E85. With no changes to the engine, as I understand
>> none are required, I will fill my tank with it three
>> times (just to make sure it is all that's in the tank)
>> and track my mileage and impressions of performance
>> against the unleaded premium that's in there now. I
>> wil also do the test in my 2002 Dakota with the 4.7
>> magnum.  Since I'm pretty good on a calculator, I'll
>> report miles per gallon to the group and save the rest
>> of the group the 300 emails and three months that it
>> will take to kick the living bejesus out of this
>> topic.
>> This will also be a good indicator of E85's knock
>> inhibiting properties, since when Orange Crush gets
>> good and hot on a highway run, it knocks like a
>> sumbitch. 
>> One day, maybe this year, I'll address that issue by
>> rounding up all the usual suspects. Meanwhile,  what
>> I'll need from all of you is time. With the limited
>> use the Corvair gets, it may take me as much as three
>> months to get the results. That means I will have them
>> in about the same time as it will take for this thread
>> to die out...unless someone else with access to E85 is
>> willing to participate in this practical test.
>> 
>> Chuck Kubin
>> 
>> 
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