<VV> RE: Communique article rejection about using Corvair Site.

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Keith - First I was having a baaaaaaad day at Black Rock. I was about up 
to the moon with "customers" who wanted hours and hours of free advice, 
one right after another. No intention of buying anything - There was the 
guy who complained (as I gave him 20 minutes of tech advice) that he had 
to call on "his dime" to get me to talk to him. Then there was the guy 
who asked me what was wrong with his engine, and dissagreed with 
everthing I said  (why call me then??), then several folks who needed 
lengthy technical assistance on parts they had purchased on E bay. Of 
course there were multiple people upset with me because they had to wait 
on hold for thier free advice on "thier dime". I'm not making any of 
these instances up.

Yes, Keith it IS money. If Larry and Steve only answer 3 or 4 technical 
questions a day - then they might consider that thier good deed for the 
day, or thier hobby  helping people (like me taking time to do this 
post?!) - but increase that tenfold and, when they're doing it for free, 
it all comes down to money. Just like the newby who wanted free advice 
and wouldn't pay that $20.00 for a great info book. I have had MANY 
people over the years who see nothing odd about taking 30 minutes of my 
time for tech but will flatly tell me "no" when I suggest they spend 
$23.00 on a shop manual (Many of them become multiple callers for free 
advice that is readily available in books that they REFUSE to purchase)

Remember -   You and I get 24 hours in a day - period.
Bill Gates and Donald Trump get 24 hours in a day too.
When the day's 24 hours are over you do not get them back
You cannot bank them,
You cannot move them around.
Unless you're Albert Einstien you cannot lengthen or compress them.
The 8, 10 or 12 hours a day you devote to "work" - did you make any 
money or did you piss them away?

Good intentions do not get you, or anyone else, extra hours.
These are facts of  physical reality. Many MANY desperatly want to 
believe that these facts do not exisit, or at least can be ignored.
What do you think? Lon

Keith Hammett wrote:

>Lon,
>
>You have struck a cord with me on your post.  I think that Rick did a very
>good job at rebuttal, however he left out a few areas for me.
>
>You state "Do we really care about those who will not spend $20.00 for a
>$34.95 book".  We should!!!  It may be that you are missing it here.  How
>about looking at it from the new person's view.  Lets set the scene...  You
>are looking on e-bay one day and come across this nifty looking car, you
>have never seen one but just think it is great.  You put your bid on it and
>win.  Now you go pick up your car and the seller knows nothing about Corsa
>or the many Vendors to tell you about them.  You get the car home and
>discover that it just doesn't run right.  A quick search on the internet and
>you find two big vendors and a link to Virtual Vairs.  The vendors won't be
>much help as you don't know what is wrong with the car, so you try VV.
>
>Once on VV you ask your "basic" question to which you are told "do a search"
>or "its in the book".  Umm, this is the first impression?  Wouldn't it be
>much better to answer the question and tell your source?  The responder to
>the basic question should say "early model senders have an ohm
>reading...according to the Basic Manual".  They might even tell how great it
>is and where to buy it.
>
>More than just newbies would benefit from responders stating where
>information is coming from.  Anytime I am given where something is coming
>from I can follow up and possibly understand the subject better.
>
>You also state "Free free free - and THAT is the real reason VV has lost so
>many "valuable" people and their advice. Larry Claypool, Steve Goodman etc
>all have to make a living and cannot spend hours a day giving free advice."
>This is true that Larry Claypool and Steve Goodman must make a living and
>cannot spend hours a day giving free advice, however at least one of these
>persons that you mention DOES give FREE advice on another corvair internet
>group.  As a matter of fact he just did on someone's question about dropped
>valve seats.  Its not the "FREE" that got them its more likely the VOLUME
>that did or attitudes.
>
>I do think it is a great idea for Corsa to check into putting some
>publications on sites like Amazon.  We might attract more members this way
>by reaching out to them instead of having them reach to us.
>
>Keith Hammett
>
>PS that oil filter that came from the underground didn't say underground on
>the box.  Guess I will go to who is printed on the box for Free advice on
>it.  <GGG>
>
>PSS to conserve space Lon and Rick's post has been stripped.  Their post was
>on Digest Vol 7, Issue 94, message 5.
>
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