<VV>Fanz, and how they work

[AKG]

More specifically, what does the oil temp do on those long drives??

The Artful Dodger

> From: Kirby Smith <kirbyasmith at gwi.net>
> Reply-To: kirbyasmith at gwi.net
> Date: Mon, 01 Aug 2005 22:33:27 -0400
> To: lechevrier at earthlink.net
> Cc: virtualvairs at corvair.org
> Subject: Re: <VV>Fanz, and how they work
> 
> All of this is wonderful, but to fully appreciate it, we need to know
> what horsepower capability he has with that strange turbo setup, is it
> intercooled, and what do the head temperatures get to on these long
> drives to the SW?
> 
> kirby
> 
> 
> Bill & Chris Strickland wrote:
>> ronh at owt.com wrote:
>> 
>>> Doesn't make much difference how many blades you use or how much
>>> engineering you do, it still takes a certain amount of power ...
>> 
>> 
>> Ron --
>> 
>> No disrespect to your opinions, but Tom's little set up just happens to
>> work. And his off-road buddies that are using this system out in the
>> sand say they are getting 25 more hp to the wheels (as reported by Tom).
>> 
>> So, maybe, just maybe, what has happened in the last 45 years, is that
>> some folks have engineered a better system for moving air that uses less
>> power than GM's Corvair design -- surely a lot is wasted with the belt
>> going around those two extra pulleys and changing direction twice --
>> with the electric fan, the alternator can be relocated axially, greatly
>> improving belt efficiency.
>> 
>> My basic thoughts on this are:
>> 
>> If one can cool 350 ci high perf water pumpers on a dyno with one of
>> these fans, why not 164 ci in a Vair?
>> 
>> Eddy - what happened to Eddy - had one running a couple/three years ago
>> that he took to convention, now Tom has one out there driving around
>> doing burnouts in the street in front of the hotel with a turbo on it,
>> and some of y'all still say it can't be done. (Yeah, he's an impetuous
>> young guy -- people thot Edison was a crackpot, too.)
>> 
>> Well, I want to tell you, it's time to sell that horse and buggy and
>> move into the 21st Century -- electric fan Corvairs have been done. Tom
>> took his wife out to dinner in the contraption Friday night (really a
>> very nice clean LM, a pearl goldish yellow with a white top and
>> accents), and then they returned in that very same car - it was still
>> running. Yeah, it was a bit warm when he returned, but it is a turbo
>> setup, he'd just been 'showing off' (above), and he shut it down without
>> a turbo cooling off period (remember; young, impetuous).
>> 
>> PS: He is not using the cheapest fan on the market - it pushes/pulls
>> roughly double what a stock fan will do -- remember the stock Mag fan is
>> a design compromise - the '60 fan, a VW/Porsche copy, is the high
>> efficiency design from that era, it just doesn't work well with the
>> Corvair layout.
>> 
>> PPS: John Deere has used the Corvair style belt layout on some garden
>> tractor/lawm mowers from the same era as Corvair, only they had a
>> centrifical clutch and a spring tensioner on the idler side, oem. Seems
>> to get my dad's lawn mowed without throwing belts - replaced the first
>> one in at least the last 20 years this summer.
>> 
>> PPPS: Tom's also got some nice big valve covers for you roller rocker
>> guys. 
>> 
>> Bill Strickland
> 
> 
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