<VV>Fanz, and how they work

[Ron]

If the stock belt design is wasting so much power, where is it going?  The 
power you claim is being wasted can only go into heat, there's no other 
outlet for it, and if heat, something must be getting very hot, and it 
isn't!  The belt would quickly melt if it was absorbing any power and the 
pulleys would be red hot if they absorbed any power, but they're cool. 
Where is this wasted power?
RonH

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bill & Chris Strickland" <lechevrier at earthlink.net>
To: <virtualvairs at corvair.org>
Sent: Monday, August 01, 2005 10:51 AM
Subject: Re: <VV>Fanz, and how they work


> ronh at owt.com wrote:
>>
>> Doesn't make much difference how many blades you use or how much
>> engineering you do, it still takes a certain amount of power ...
>
> Ron --
>
> No disrespect to your opinions, but Tom's little set up just happens to
> work. And his off-road buddies that are using this system out in the
> sand say they are getting 25 more hp to the wheels (as reported by Tom).
>
> So, maybe, just maybe, what has happened in the last 45 years, is that
> some folks have engineered a better system for moving air that uses less
> power than GM's Corvair design -- surely a lot is wasted with the belt
> going around those two extra pulleys and changing direction twice --
> with the electric fan, the alternator can be relocated axially, greatly
> improving belt efficiency.
>
> My basic thoughts on this are:
>
> If one can cool 350 ci high perf water pumpers on a dyno with one of
> these fans, why not 164 ci in a Vair?
>
> Eddy - what happened to Eddy - had one running a couple/three years ago
> that he took to convention, now Tom has one out there driving around
> doing burnouts in the street in front of the hotel with a turbo on it,
> and some of y'all still say it can't be done. (Yeah, he's an impetuous
> young guy -- people thot Edison was a crackpot, too.)
>
> Well, I want to tell you, it's time to sell that horse and buggy and
> move into the 21st Century -- electric fan Corvairs have been done. Tom
> took his wife out to dinner in the contraption Friday night (really a
> very nice clean LM, a pearl goldish yellow with a white top and
> accents), and then they returned in that very same car - it was still
> running. Yeah, it was a bit warm when he returned, but it is a turbo
> setup, he'd just been 'showing off' (above), and he shut it down without
> a turbo cooling off period (remember; young, impetuous).
>
> PS: He is not using the cheapest fan on the market - it pushes/pulls
> roughly double what a stock fan will do -- remember the stock Mag fan is
> a design compromise - the '60 fan, a VW/Porsche copy, is the high
> efficiency design from that era, it just doesn't work well with the
> Corvair layout.
>
> PPS: John Deere has used the Corvair style belt layout on some garden
> tractor/lawm mowers from the same era as Corvair, only they had a
> centrifical clutch and a spring tensioner on the idler side, oem. Seems
> to get my dad's lawn mowed without throwing belts - replaced the first
> one in at least the last 20 years this summer.
>
> PPPS: Tom's also got some nice big valve covers for you roller rocker
> guys.
>
> Bill Strickland
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