<VV> Removing transmission on early Corvairs

[Bill Hubbell]

The difference is that Bill will lower the entire powertrain and remove it 
to work on the transaxle, whereas Tony will only lower the front of the 
powertrain and then get under the car and wrestle with the transmission in 
that position.

The safety issue comes up because Tony is choosing to work under the car 
when it is not necessary or even useful to do so.

As for Tree stumps vs. jack stands, all I can say it that there is no way to 
assure the safety of tree stumps, so I would be loathe to recommend them as 
a generic replacement for a stout pair of jack stands.

Bill

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Alan and Clare Wesson" <alan.wesson at atlas.co.uk>
To: <virtualvairs at corvair.org>
Sent: Saturday, April 16, 2005 9:59 AM
Subject: Re: <VV> Removing transmission on early Corvairs


> Tony had written:
>
>>> do it by yourself (with) nothing but one floor jack, two tree stumps
>
> Bill wrote:
>
>> Balderdash!  I almost ALWAYS remove and install the entire early 
>> powertrain by myself, with... one floor jack, and two jack stands.
>
> Unless I have misunderstood something here, Bill's method is to put the 
> car up on two jack stands and then lower the drivetrain on the jack.
>
> If I have read him right and made correct assumptions, Tony's method is to 
> put the car on two tree stumps and lower the transmission (or drivetrain?) 
> on the jack.
>
> As I read it, the only difference is that Bill uses jack stands and Tony 
> uses tree stumps. As someone who owns both and uses the tree stumps 99% of 
> the time in place of jack stands, please could I put a case for tree 
> stumps? Mine, at least, are very wide and stout, and can't fall over. I 
> would rather work under any car supported on tree stumps than I would 
> under one on jack stands - although my jack stands are good quality and 
> not likely to fall over, it would be easier for them to fall over than it 
> would for the tree stumps to fall over, and the point of contact with the 
> car is much safer (i.e. if the car slips when it is on the jack stands, it 
> is likely to fall off the jack stand because the point of contact is 
> small, whereas if it slips when it is on the tree stump, it is likely to 
> fall onto another piece of tree stump, because mine are nearly two feet in 
> diameter).
>
> Perhaps I have misunderstood one or both of Bill's and Tony's posts?
>
> Cheers
>
> Alan
>
> P.S. I have had my set of 5 stout tree trunks since 1976, and when we 
> moved to where we are now, we had to put our furniture in storage for six 
> months. When we were having it moved from the storage to our new house, 
> the guy from the removal company did a double-take when he saw the tree 
> stumps, and asked me why I had seen fit to pay storage on 5 tree stumps 
> for 6 months. When I couldn't really come up with a suitable answer (apart 
> from my own stupidity), he said, in a broad Devon accent (you won't know 
> what that sounds like, but for the US equivalent think low-country South 
> Carolina!) 'we do 'ave trees down 'ere, you know'. Apart from feeling 
> about 2 inches tall, I resolved that, now I had $100 or so of storage fees 
> in my tree stumps, I was going to hold on them for ever. So far, I have...
>
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