<VV> ebay alert

[Charles Lee]

Using another seller's photos or advertising text is against eBay policy (I 
know that I saw it in there when I was looking for something else), but the 
owner has to complain about it, and then eBay will probably suspend the 
offending pirate indefinitely until they get around to determining whether 
it's true or not.  (Although eBay's policy is to thoroughly investigate 
BEFORE taking action, they usually just knock you out and think later. See : 
http://pages.ebay.com/help/confidence/programs-investigations.html)




----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Marc Marcoulides" <hharpo@earthlink.net>
To: "corvairs" <lonwall@corvairunderground.com>; "Charles Lee" 
<chaz@ivic.net>
Cc: "Virtual Vairs" <VirtualVairs@corvair.org>; <Monza67@aol.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2004 11:26 AM
Subject: Re: <VV> ebay alert


>I did not know there was anything wrong with using someone elses photos. 
>About a year ago I bought a BMW on eBay, I just recently sold it. I had 
>kept the photos so I used them when I sold the car on eBay I re-used those 
>photos. They were of a greater quality than I am able to do myself. The 
>buyer came and got the car in person, drove it home, sent me ane-mail 
>saying everything was fine. He also gave me positave feedback as I did for 
>him.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: corvairs <lonwall@corvairunderground.com>
> Sent: Sep 21, 2004 10:41 AM
> To: Charles Lee <chaz@ivic.net>
> Cc: Virtual Vairs <VirtualVairs@corvair.org>, Monza67@aol.com
> Subject: Re: <VV> ebay alert
>
> Whether what he is doing violates any Ebay rules or not he is behaving
> unethically. That casts suspicion on the entire deal. Lon
>
> Charles Lee wrote:
>
>> Does eBay specify that "speculating" is wrong ?  It's done every day,
>> and a great way to do business, buying something only after you've
>> sold it.
>>
>> I think he's allowed to sell something he speculates that he
>> reasonably will have (unless eBay has a policy against this ?), but
>> the real problem could come from not actually being able to acquire
>> the wheels, after selling them to a third party.  Paying for them
>> would help to ensure that this happens, and that he can fulfill his
>> promise.
>>
>> This seller could have a problem if he doesn't pay the current owner
>> for the wheels, and therefore never gets them to sell.
>>
>> It all seems to hinge on whether he pays the first owner of the wheels
>> for them.
>>
>> This gets more legalistic than I can get, not being a lawyer, but it
>> seems very interesting anyway.
>>
>> Did the first owner get paid yet ?  Therein lies the rub, so to speak ...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: <Monza67@aol.com>
>> To: <hharpo@earthlink.net>; <virtualvairs@skiblack.com>
>> Sent: Monday, September 20, 2004 6:24 PM
>> Subject: Re: <VV> ebay alert
>>
>>
>>> I reported the person to the ebay cops. The problem I have with the
>>> whole
>>> situation is that he has listed them for sale and doesn't even own
>>> them yet. He
>>> has also given a description of them that is not the same as my
>>> description and
>>> he has never even seen the wheels, except in my picture. He obviously
>>> is not
>>> truthful in the whole situation and that bothers me when I see it on
>>> ebay.
>>> Once he pays me and has possession of the wheels, he can do whatever
>>> he wants
>>> with them.
>>> Chuck
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