<VV> Re: VirtualVairs digest, Vol 1 #1032 - 8 msgs
bmooers@farniente.com
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Tue, 7 Sep 2004 16:24:12 -0700
I have a 63 Spyder Conv. I am replacing the brake system and want to do
some general cleaning in the front suspension. The suspension is in good
condition and completely rust free. I want to remove excess grease and
grime and repaint some of the components. What should I use to remove
hardened road dirt and grease? Is there a cleaner anyone can recommend?
Also - if I repaint the parts is there a recommended chassis paint that is
available aerosol? Thanks- Bruce
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Dolce Winery
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Today's Topics:
1. RE: Mr. Clean AutodryT? (Duane, Jim)
2. Re: Blower Bearing (corvairs)
3. Re: Blower Bearing (airvair)
4. Registering an old car from New York in California
(pkw@peachgrove.com)
5. Re: Registering an old car from New York in California (Geoffrey A.
Johnson)
6. Re: 1964 Corvair Monza (Larry Forman)
7. Re: power brakes (AngryCorvair@aol.com)
8. blower bearing (Tom Wright)
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Message: 1
Subject: RE: <VV> Mr. Clean AutodryT?
Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2004 16:39:43 -0400
From: "Duane, Jim" <Jim.Duane@DigitalNet.com>
To: <Wrsssatty@aol.com>, <virtualvairs@skiblack.com>
Have one. I find it works as advertised, but the soap leaves a film on
my plastic rear window that I can see.
Jim Duane
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Subject: <VV> Mr. Clean Autodry(tm)?
Does anyone have any experience with Mr. Clean Autodryb"? If so, what
are
your impressions?
Thanks!
Bill Stanley
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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 07 Sep 2004 14:00:40 -0700
From: corvairs <lonwall@corvairunderground.com>
To: airvair <airvair@richnet.net>
Cc: Sadek Charles H DLVA <SadekCH@NSWC.NAVY.MIL>, virtualvairs@corvair.org
Subject: Re: <VV> Blower Bearing
Mark - If catestrophic und unexpected failure of this item was common
(I've NEVER heard of it until you mentioned it) then an argument could
be made. Unfortunatly every blower bearing failure I've ever had gave
thousands of miles of warnings (usually 10's of thousands of miles!). I
can't say I ever recall hearing of a blower bearing failure that
occurred without any warning. So now what do we do? Lon
www.corvairunderground.com
airvair wrote:
> When I said "deficient" I didn't meant that it wasn't very durable,
> but rather that it was NOT designed to be easily or quickly replaced.
> The factory design reminds me of my brother's Fiat that required half
> the front suspension be removed in order to replace a 25 cent seal. I
> can only guess that neither of you have ever had a blower bearing go
> bad on you without warning "in the middle of nowhere" and had to spend
> a whole day gutting the engine top end, finding a bearing, and then
> searching around for a press just to get it replaced. Been there, done
> that, don't ever want to do it again. They're too much of a royal pain.
>
> So what if the alternater bearing isn't QUITE as durable? At least
> when they DO go bad, I won't have to spent the whole day gutting the
> entire engine top end.
>
> -Mark
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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 07 Sep 2004 17:13:14 -0400
From: airvair <airvair@richnet.net>
To: corvairs <lonwall@corvairunderground.com>
CC: Sadek Charles H DLVA <SadekCH@NSWC.NAVY.MIL>, virtualvairs@corvair.org
Subject: Re: <VV> Blower Bearing
I guess, go by experience. BTW I didn't say "catastrophic and unexpected
failure," just that it went from nothing to screaming like a banshee in
the space of about an hour's drive. Very unnerving. When I pulled into
the Homecoming, EVERYone in the entire lot heard me coming. And I wasted
an entire day at the meet fixing it. I NEVER want to have that happen
again, so I'll stick with the replacable "alternator" bearings, thank
you very much, and pray that you don't have one go bad like that on you.
Maybe my experience could be the byproduct of a car that spends most of
its life sitting. I don't know.
And yes, I've seen them totally fail. Maybe it MIGHT take a while, but
it wipes out the blower when it goes. (Fortunately, it wasn't in my car.
And YES I warned its owner.)
-Mark
corvairs wrote:
> Mark - If catestrophic und unexpected failure of this item was common
> (I've NEVER heard of it until you mentioned it) then an argument could
> be made. Unfortunatly every blower bearing failure I've ever had gave
> thousands of miles of warnings (usually 10's of thousands of miles!). I
> can't say I ever recall hearing of a blower bearing failure that
> occurred without any warning. So now what do we do? Lon
>
> www.corvairunderground.com
>
> airvair wrote:
>
>> When I said "deficient" I didn't meant that it wasn't very durable,
>> but rather that it was NOT designed to be easily or quickly replaced.
>> The factory design reminds me of my brother's Fiat that required half
>> the front suspension be removed in order to replace a 25 cent seal. I
>> can only guess that neither of you have ever had a blower bearing go
>> bad on you without warning "in the middle of nowhere" and had to spend
>> a whole day gutting the engine top end, finding a bearing, and then
>> searching around for a press just to get it replaced. Been there, done
>> that, don't ever want to do it again. They're too much of a royal pain.
>>
>> So what if the alternater bearing isn't QUITE as durable? At least
>> when they DO go bad, I won't have to spent the whole day gutting the
>> entire engine top end.
>>
>> -Mark
>
>
>
>
>
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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2004 14:23:03 -0700 (PDT)
From: <pkw@peachgrove.com>
To: <virtualvairs@corvair.org>
Subject: <VV> Registering an old car from New York in California
Well, as many of you know by now, I am the new owner of the beautiful 66
Corsa that Ron Blachut has owned for several years. The purchase and
transportation of the car went smoothly, but getting it titled and
registered here in persnickity CA DMV-land is becoming a pain. Here's the
scoop:
There are no titles on cars this old in New York. There is a transferable
registration document, which I was given of course, properly signed over
to me. I also got a bill of sale. Well, when you do not have a title
for
a car from out of state, the CA DMV wants a bill of sale. Fine, you
say? You got one! Yeah, well the bill of sale they want is not from
the previous owner to me, but from the owner BEFORE that to the previous
owner. This makes no sense to me, but both the central office AND the
field office for the DMV have said it is so. If you cannot get that
(which I cannot, for reasons that aren't important here), then the only
other choice is a "Vehicle Surety Bond". As I understand such a thing, it
is essentially an insurance policy that I have to take out. If, after
some period of time (3 years, I think), no claim has been made about the
ownership of my Corsa, then I am refunded the bond.
So here's my question. Do ANY of you guys have experience with a
situation like this? Right now I have feelers out to insurance companies
to try to find a bond. MY company (State Farm) said, "Sure, we can give
you a bond if you have the title." DOH! If I had the title I wouldn't
be
asking for a bond! Why does this have to be so difficult?
Phil Wilson
Santa Barbara, CA
http://www.66Corvair.com
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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 07 Sep 2004 15:47:25 -0600
From: "Geoffrey A. Johnson" <geoffj@unm.edu>
To: pkw@peachgrove.com, virtualvairs@corvair.org
Subject: Re: <VV> Registering an old car from New York in California
Hello,
We have done this on one of the cars in our fleet. This is in New Mexico
so it will be different there. We were given a 61, with nothing else.
Just told to haul it away from the location it had been at for 20 years.
None of the owners were alive or reachable. First we had to have a stolen
VIN (NCIC database as I recall) check on it done by DMV. Then we took
that
to Talbot Insurance and they wrote a surety bond for us which we took to
DMV and got a title for it. They asked for VIN, description, and the rough
market value of the car, that makes a difference on final cost. Cost was
$100, never really heard if that is refundable or not, in our case I think
not. Really pretty simple here, but there may be other hoops you might
have to jump through. If there is any more specific information you need
let me know.
Hope that helps,
Geoff Johnson
--On Tuesday, September 07, 2004 2:23 PM -0700 pkw@peachgrove.com wrote:
> So here's my question. Do ANY of you guys have experience with a
> situation like this? Right now I have feelers out to insurance
companies
> to try to find a bond. MY company (State Farm) said, "Sure, we can
give
> you a bond if you have the title." DOH! If I had the title I wouldn't
> be asking for a bond! Why does this have to be so difficult?
>
> Phil Wilson
> Santa Barbara, CA
> http://www.66Corvair.com
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Message: 6
From: "Larry Forman" <larry@forman.net>
To: "Cameron, David" <David.Cameron@nnsa.doe.gov>,
"'virtualvairs@corvair.org'" <virtualvairs@corvair.org>
Date: Tue, 07 Sep 2004 10:50:12 -1100
Subject: Re: <VV> 1964 Corvair Monza
Hi Dave,
With these symptoms, I would not automatically assume you have a fuel
problem. In fact, it sounds like an ignition coil that has heat soaked
and is in the final stages of dying. Here are some ideas to keep you off
the street until you get this sorted out:
1. Replace the rubber hose leading into the engine compartment if you have
not already done this. It can either swell and seal off the fuel or leak
air and starve the fuel pump. Best to just replace it. That location is
also a good place to install a small plastic or metal housed fuel filter.
Carry a spare or replace regularly.
2. When the car dies, immediately pull off the air cleaner and actuate the
throttle and check for an accelerator pump squirt. If none, then you DO
have a fuel delivery problem. Also at this time, pull one of the spark
plug wires and place it close to a grounded terminal and observe that you
have a good fat blue spark when cranking or running the engine. Even
better, just replace the ignition coil. They are so quick to replace that
it is often better to just try swapping in a new one if you are not sure.
I would simply replace ANY stock original coil, just because. I have had
good luck with the Flamethrower coils, but others work fine also.
3. If you REALLY feel that you have a fuel starvation issue, prove it to
yourself. Remove the fuel pump and replace the threaded line from the
fuel pump with a threaded "T" and insert a fuel pump pressure gauge, or
MUCH BETTER, an electric sending unit. You could even use an oil pressure
sending unit, but that will not give much indication on the meter, but it
might work well enough. The danger of plumbing in a fuel pressure
mechanical gauge is that if the fan belt breaks and takes out that line,
you could have fuel spraying in the engine compartment. But for a BRIEF
temporary test, it might work, if you are careful. With this approach you
can monitor the fuel pump pressure and then if you see a decline in
pressure and then a resulting engine problem, you have proven that you
have a fuel delivery issue. Then you can concentrate on identifying the
root cause for the fuel issue.
Bottom line, try swapping out the ignition coil and see if that cures it.
Quick check - simple and fast. Gotta love it!
HTH,
Larry
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From: "Cameron, David" <David.Cameron@nnsa.doe.gov>> I have a fuel problem
with my Corvair. >When I run it for about 15-25
> minutes that car dies and will start but no power is available until it
sits
> for about 30 minutes. I replaced the gas tank and filter sock due to
rust,
> blew out the fuel lines and replaced the fuel. I was wondering if
anyone
> had a proposed course of action to see what I should do?
>
> Dave Cameron
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Message: 7
From: AngryCorvair@aol.com
Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2004 18:36:31 EDT
Subject: Re: <VV> power brakes
To: virtualvairs@corvair.org
In a message dated 9/6/2004 2:38:04 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
charliemorgan@comcast.net writes:
Nick, boosters are often necessary when disc brakes are used. Duo-servo
drums brakes (like those used on Corvairs) are self-energizing and require
much less pedal force to create the same braking torque created by disc
brakes.
Charlie Morgan
Beaver State Corvairs
Ding Ding Ding we have a winnah! a disc brake is not self-energizing, so
it
requires higher apply force than a similarly-sized duo-servo drum brake to
generate the same brake torque. force equals pressure times area, so the
disc
needs higher pressure, more area, or a combination of the two, to get the
required apply force. so the caliper piston is larger diameter than the
wheel
cylinder, which drives up the volume requirement of the master cylinder.
master cylinder volume can be increased by larger bore or larger stroke.
larger
stroke means longer pedal travel, so we don't like to go that way. so,
we
increase the bore of the master cylinder, which means that we have LOWERED
the
output pressure of the master cylinder for a given pedal force. the only
ways
to get the master cylinder output pressure back up are to either increase
the
mechanical advantage of the pedal (again at the cost of increased pedal
travel), or to install some kind of force multiplier between the pedal and
the
master cylinder. *that's* why disc-brake cars have boosters.
please remember, if your brakes are sufficient to lock up your tires, you
don't need any more brake output!
patrick aka AngryCorvair@AOL.com
brake systems engineer for about a decade now...
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Message: 8
Reply-To: "Tom Wright" <tomspost@sympatico.ca>
From: "Tom Wright" <tomspost@sympatico.ca>
To: <virtualvairs@corvair.org>
Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2004 18:34:37 -0400
Subject: <VV> blower bearing
Please help me out. I checked American Pi's website and I don't see the
replaceable bearing fixture.
Tom Wright
St.Catharines
www.vaxxine.com/tomspage
66 Corsa 140
Corsa Ontario
CORSA
> My cure is to use an easily REPLACABLE bearing design from Orville
> Eiason. While Orville is no longer in the business, American Pi sells
> a replacable cartridge bearing that accomplishes the same goal.
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