I always enjoy the banter back and forth between early and late owners. Since it's so much fun, I would like to recommend even more categories to fight over. How about early earlies (pre 64) vs. late earlies (64)? Or don't forget early early earlies (1960) with the concave front ends. I'm sure we can break up the lates also if we think hard enough. :) Tim Spry Rochester Hills, MI