<VV> Matching engine number

[Shaun]

...And I'm still looking for '64 turbo block T0127YR....
yea, Vairily ... Shaun

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Les" <corvair@mb.sympatico.ca>
To: <virtualvairs@corvair.org>
Sent: Saturday, May 29, 2004 12:25 PM
Subject: <VV> Matching engine number


> There is a small exception: if you have a Canadian production car (will
> read GM Canada D.D. on the VIN tag) GM Canada still has the records and
> if you order a "restoration package" from them (costs $40) one of the
> things you will get is a sheet listing production date, dealer delivery
> date, selling dealer, model and option information, AND the original
> engine serial number.
>
> Having said that, does anyone have TO114RB? This is the correct date
> code block for my '65 Corsa....
>
> Thanks,
> Les
> corvair@mts.net
> 1965 Canadian Corsa cvt 140/4 red/black w/white
>
> Message: 3
> From: "Russ Moorhouse" <corvair65@verizon.net>
> To: "VV" <virtualvairs@corvair.org>, <slmizel@juno.com>
> Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 23:29:49 -0400
> Subject: <VV> re: Matching engine number
>
> Steve,
>
> If  what you are asking is:  "Is there some way of telling if the engine
in
> your Corvair, the original engine for the car with that VIN"; then there
is
> no way of knowing for certain when both the VIN and the engine are of the
> same year.  The only way to tell for certain is if the previous owner has
> the original warranty book that came with the car when it was new.  It has
a
> metal tag on the inside back cover that has the VIN and engine ID for that
> car stamped.  This is often referred to as the protecto-plate and you
really
> need this when you make the claim this car is original with matching
> numbers.
>
> The whole Chevy line during this time period came with these warranty
> book/plates.  Without out them you have no way of knowing from the VIN if
> your V8 Chevy came with a 283 or a 327 or 396 etc.., since the VIN only
> signified a 6 or an 8.  This is where you get conned when someone says it
is
> the original 409 engine.  Without this warranty plate you have no proof
that
> it is.
>
> This plate is also embossed with the original owners name, date of
purchase,
> and  2 other groups of number which relate to the transmission, rear axle
> serial numbers.  With this plate and all the numbers for the engine,
> transmission, and axle matching those on the plate you can say the car is
> original with all matching numbers.  Unfortunately, a matching number car
> doesn't seem to add any value or mean much to Corvair collectors, as it
> would if it were a Corvette and any other muscle cars of the 60's and
70's.
>
> Russ Moorhouse
> '65 Corsa coupe 140 HP
> Group Corvair Member
> Kent Island, MD
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 10:22:49 -0500
> From: Lauren C Mizel <slmizel@juno.com>
> Subject: <VV> matching engine number
>
> Another question for the great minds of VV: Where can I get info on
> decoding my car's ID tag/engine number?  I am trying to find out as much
> as i can about the car, but the PO is, at this point, being a bit
> unresponsive.  I know how to decode the VIN (10765W164166)...my engine
> number is TI2I7RB (If I am reading it from the right place).  My ID tag
> says 2331 Body and E-1 paint.  The bottom of the tag has W2LC4P -- ...I
> know there is supposed to be another number somewhere on the drive
> train...but I haven't jacked it up to try to find it yet.
>
> I am debating stock restore vs. fun modifications...and would like to
> know what I am dealing with.  I own the shop manual and How to Keep Your
> Corvair Alive and have Corvair Basics and Care and Feeding of Your
> Corvair on my next to buy book list (the second recommended to help me
> with my upcoming clutch job)...do I need to add another book to the list
> (IE, one with info that would help answer questions like above).  Thanks
> guys.
>
> Steve Mizel, St. Louis
> CORSA
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