<VV> Re: Signal to noise ratio

[Hank Kaczmarek]

Good evening all....

Roger, thanks for your input.
I have also read this all day.

Time was my large Polish behind would have been dead in the middle of this
one.

People come, and people go....I've only been here for 7 years now. Until VV
I had only been to one National. Heard lots about them. But the only one I
went to was the one that my club helped to host (Williamsburg 1994). At that
time I had been a CORSA member for 6 years.  Since joining VV I have been to
4 of the 7 Nationals, 2 of which I missed due to family obligations on my
vacation time. 2 were in the West (Lake Tahoe and Flagstaff).

If you go to a National and spend your vacation looking at Corvairs, Talking
with all your friends from VV, buying and selling parts, swapping lies with
the vendors, Sorry but I can't find a way that you wouldn't enjoy yourself.
I even enjoyed working on the convention.  Buffalo 2006 is fast approaching,
and I can't wait to see all our cars in the town I was raised in..... I
would LOVE for the Chevrolet Engine Plant to let us park a couple hundred
Corvairs on the lawn for an overhead group shot.

Point is, VV is my daily shot of Corvairs. Keeps me motivated inbetween
meets and conventions.  Sure some of it drives me nuts, and I drive some of
you nuts.
But the banter is so much more educational than in the days before the talk
list.

We tried a Tech List option while I was Chairman, and Ken Hand and Steve
Goodman for 2 were interested, but there wasn't much interest among all of
you.

Here's the bottom line-

In 1992 there were about what, 6 people organized as what would become
Virtual Vairs.....
Today, even with all the hookie, dookie, and other disorganized stuff,
there are nearly 1000 people on this list.

What's that tell you??

Apologies to the naysayers, but I politely disagree.
The BBRT, WRBT, and the various racer groups drive me batty, but their
banter can be entertaining too. They're just having fun.  And Why Not????
Just an example.

Hang around. It's all in how you want to take it.

Regards
HANK
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Roger Gault" <r.gault@sbcglobal.net>
To: "Corvair List" <virtualvairs@corvair.org>
Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2004 9:39 PM
Subject: Re: <VV> Re: Signal to noise ratio


> Since all the bandwidth today was used up by this thread (which I read all
> of, instead of just deleting it like I normally would), I thought I'd add
my
> .02.
>
> I am distressed by the loss of Ken and the experts that left before him
> (actually, I hate to lose anybody), but I doubt seriously if going to a
> forum style would make any difference.  Those guys are busy, and they do
> cars all day.  It's not all that entertaining to come home and do the same
> thing you do at work.  They provide a great service to the rest of us, but
> get little in return except for the satisfaction of helping us amatures
> out - poor pay.
>
> I personally love the present format.  I've tried the forums, and they're
> too much effort and too time consuming for my taste.  It takes no time
> whatsoever to delete the stuff I'm not interested in on any given night,
and
> that interest changes from day to day, so I don't much like categories.
For
> example, I doubt I'd have tracked down the information that VWs come with
a
> small gas heater which I could probably easily adapt to my LM.  I don't
need
> that info today, but I find it very interesting and may need it if I ever
go
> to headers.
>
> Yes, there's a lot of garbage on this list, but it's really pretty rich
ore.
> I think it was Theodore Sturgeon who said, "Ninety percent of everything
is
> crud."  Except when the whining is in full cry, we're better than that.
>
> There is one HUGE advantage to this closed list, my e-mail address cannot
be
> harvested by some bot like it can on the forums.  Before I recently
changed
> my ISP and therefore my address, I had my address posted on a personal web
> page.  I'll never post my address on an accessible web page again.  Toward
> the end of that experience I was getting approximately 150 spams a day -
> mostly offering to enhance the size of various body parts, some of which I
> don't have.  With DSL, the offensive pictures came up faster than I could
> delete the e-mail.  Now THATs a bad signal to noise ratio.
>
> We've got a good thing here.  Don't @#$% it up.
>
> Roger
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