<VV> Re: 140 vs 180

[Dennis & Debbie Pleau]

Ditto what Bruce said.

dp

At 08:06 PM 6/8/2004, Bruce Schug wrote:
>On Jun 8, 2004, at 7:08 PM, Lluke2136@aol.com wrote:
>
> > I've owned various 140-powered Corvairs and a '65 Corsa 180. The 180
> > was a
> > lot more fun on the street and anvil reliable. No tinkering or messing
> > around
> > with it, it just ran.  Of course it was my Dad's before he passed away
> > and was
> > about the most perfect Corsa I've ever seen.
> >
> > I drove a 140 as a daily driver for many, many years. The 140s are
> > kind of a
> > pain. They need a preflight about like an airplane before being driven
> > to
> > check for linkage defects and leaking fuel fittings.  Probably a lot
> > of others
> > besides me have nailed the throttle in a 140 and had the linkage jam
> > full open.
> > There's no way to keep all that monkey motion from going beserk at
> > some point
> > without constant fiddling.  And then there's the valve seat disease.
> >
> > For daily driving, I vote for a stock 180.
> >
> >
>
>Bob,
>
>I just have to disagree with you on this. I've never owned a turbo and
>wouldn't want a stock one. I've driven some and had friends that had
>them. I just don't care for a turbo. In stock form they have poor
>throttle response. They take forever to make any power. You generally
>have to be in third gear before they get up some boost and start to
>run. If you modify them so they perform well, you have to be careful or
>you'll have so much detonation you'll destroy them. Certainly a
>properly built turbo can be a blast on the street, but the stock ones
>I've driven about put me to sleep.
>
>There's nothing wrong with the carburetor linkage on a 140. I don't
>know what your problem was (is). They have to be adjusted, but once
>done they stay adjusted for years unless you mess with them. Same for
>fuel leaks. If your fuel lines aren't fastened properly obviously
>they'll leak. If you have good lines and fasten them properly, they
>won't leak. As for the valve seat problems, I think most people feel
>that dropped seats are probably due to engines that don't cool
>properly. If yours is dirty and full of rat's nests or something you
>shouldn't expect it to run forever.
>
>A 140 is a blast to drive on the street; even a stock one. They have
>great throttle response and develop power in any gear. It just puzzles
>me to hear people refer to them as troublesome.
>
>Bruce
>
>Bruce W, Schug
>CORSA South Carolina
>Greenville, SC
>bwschug@charter.net
>
>CORSA member since 1981
>
>'67 Monza. "67AC140"