<VV> vendor , shipping to Canada

[Jim Houston]

There is one more point to be made:  the auction price sometimes (usually?)
winds up being more than the vendor's price!

Jim Houston

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "corvairs" <lonwall@corvairunderground.com>
To: <virtualvairs@skiblack.com>
Cc: <virtualvairs@corvair.org>
Sent: Friday, August 27, 2004 4:21 PM
Subject: Re: <VV> vendor , shipping to Canada


> According to Ebay that's a good point. And when it is done and a fair
> price is being charged for the shipping, then it is a violation of the
> contract. Unfortunatly I've also seen many cases where sellers will
> charge excessivly for shipping to compensate for the price they actually
> receive for the item. Additionally it seems amazing to me how many
> people bid on $1-5 dollar items then pay shipping on each one. Seems
> like an expensive way to do it.
>
> We've experimented with internet auctions (IA) and will continue to keep
> one foot in - but the truth is, for sellers with any kind of overhead
> (or individuals hoping to make money at it) it's a pretty time consuming
> way to make sales and an inefficient way to buy - But UNFORTUNATLY........
>
> Have IA's  cost Corvair vendors sales? Without a doubt. If there are
> daily 20 pages of Corvair parts that represents signifigant competition.
> But I just said that it's a poor way for most sellers to make profit and
> an inefficient way for Corvair owners to buy many items. It doesn't
> matter -
>
> Many who go into IA's as for-profit sellers, but end up realizing that
> it doesnt pay off, don't help themselves. You'd think that would be good
> for the vendors - nope, because if 100 private/semi-professional IA
> sellers call it quits, there are 100 more lined up behind them to learn
> thier own hard lessons. (Obviously an exaggeration, but you see my
> point). While this is all going on energies and sales are diverted away
> from the vendors. How long can people with overheads hold out?
>
> Of course if you just bought a set of TRW pistons for below the market
> value on an IA then you'll think I'm a wanker who just has to face up to
> modern realities - even if that means a new future without Corvair parts
> vendors. I realize that nothing that I or anyone else says here will
> change anyone's minds. Business is business - but consider these facts -
>
> 1) How many internet auction sellers reproduce parts?
> 2) How many IA sellers actually have a meaningful (if any) inventory?
> 3) Since most of these IA sellers do it as a hobby (and not much profit
> is being made at the end of the day) how long will they continue to
> "play" before they move on to something more profitable?
> 4) How many IA sellers have all the parts you need on demand (when you
> need them)?
> 5) What recourse (realistically) do you have when dealing with the
> multitudes of  IA sellers should you have problems?
>
> Is the future of Corvair parts an International convention where the
> indoor and outdoor vendor rooms have been combined as a room with a bank
> of computers all set to Internet Auctions?     Lon
>
> www.corvairunderground.com
>
>
> >
> >I thought that Ebay auctions were binding.
> >
> >How can someone decide to reneg because they don't like the shipping
cost?
> >
> >Tim Abney
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