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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Larry.....The point I was attempting to make is
that it is not logical to presume that alllllllll Special Interest Groups have
the same requirements to meet the needs of their constituants, and by simply
dictating they all have to be treated exactly the same is simplistic and short
sighted...</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>dme out....</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=mr.vair@urbancom.net href="mailto:mr.vair@urbancom.net">Larry
Claypool</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=dellis1@rochester.rr.com
href="mailto:dellis1@rochester.rr.com">Dave Ellis</A> ; <A
title=hljensen@comcast.net
href="mailto:hljensen@comcast.net">hljensen@comcast.net</A> ; <A
title=sarahvair@juno.com
href="mailto:sarahvair@juno.com">sarahvair@juno.com</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A title=SGEAST@INTERLOG.COM
href="mailto:SGEAST@INTERLOG.COM">Stan East</A> ; <A title=NJDL@SYMPATICO.CA
href="mailto:NJDL@SYMPATICO.CA">Jim Diell</A> ; <A title=cfacklam@adelphia.net
href="mailto:cfacklam@adelphia.net">Chuck Facklmam</A> ; <A
title=mandolin@rochester.rr.com href="mailto:mandolin@rochester.rr.com">SAM
ANDOLINA</A> ; <A title=Richmarymcclive@aol.com
href="mailto:Richmarymcclive@aol.com">Rich McClive</A> ; <A
title=KB2HBA@twcny.rr.com href="mailto:KB2HBA@twcny.rr.com">David Robinson</A>
; <A title=chuckflo2@cs.com href="mailto:chuckflo2@cs.com">Chuck Littman</A> ;
<A title=flamingofarm@earthlink.net
href="mailto:flamingofarm@earthlink.net">Jeff Clark</A> ; <A
title=scg-list@tiger.skiblack.com
href="mailto:scg-list@tiger.skiblack.com">scg-list@tiger.skiblack.com</A> ; <A
title=chevrobilia@juno.com href="mailto:chevrobilia@juno.com">"Dave
Newell"</A> ; <A title=chelvis@camano.net
href="mailto:chelvis@camano.net">"Bill Chellis"</A> ; <A
title=kentsu@corvairkid.com href="mailto:kentsu@corvairkid.com">"Kent
Sullivan"</A> ; <A title=richard.w.thompson@usa.dupont.com
href="mailto:richard.w.thompson@usa.dupont.com">"Rich Thompson"</A> ; <A
title=airvair@richnet.net
href="mailto:airvair@richnet.net">airvair@richnet.net</A> ; <A
title=corsabod@corvair.org href="mailto:corsabod@corvair.org">"CORSA/CPF
BoD"</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, November 29, 2005 1:10
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: SCG meeting</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>dme</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2> so i understand you are saying it's ok to
give SCG two meetings (when this years' meeting will be their first reguarly
scheduled one) on the day and time<EM> they</EM> specify, but corvanatics,
airvairs, and virtual vairs, who have a running track record of many
conventions will simply get along with one meeting that falls into the overall
plan of the convention? just wanted to make sure i read that
correctly.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>as for the " very
retrogressive concept' we have for years tried to schedule a convention
so that any person that wants to do all the corvair events -auto x, rally,
econo run, concours/car display, tech sessions, special interst interest
groups, etc. could do so; choices would have to me made about going on
tours instead of attending corvair events, but all corvair events would be
possible to attend.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>we are already compromising that by overlapping
some group meetings, so we pick the groups that have the least
commonality.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>as for scheduling the event during the autocross,
stan east specifically rejected the idea of the SCG 'event' occuring during
any other major event.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>remember also that stock class drivers (as well
as all other classes) are required to 'work' the course during another heat,
so you simply don't show up, run, then leave.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>while i realize all of us have our own particular
interests, the convention as a whole must accomodate the diversity of intersts
and groups that make up corsa. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>larry</FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=dellis1@rochester.rr.com
href="mailto:dellis1@rochester.rr.com">Dave Ellis</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=hljensen@comcast.net
href="mailto:hljensen@comcast.net">hljensen@comcast.net</A> ; <A
title=sarahvair@juno.com
href="mailto:sarahvair@juno.com">sarahvair@juno.com</A> ; <A
title=mr.vair@urbancom.net href="mailto:mr.vair@urbancom.net">Larry
Claypool</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A title=SGEAST@INTERLOG.COM
href="mailto:SGEAST@INTERLOG.COM">Stan East</A> ; <A title=NJDL@SYMPATICO.CA
href="mailto:NJDL@SYMPATICO.CA">Jim Diell</A> ; <A
title=cfacklam@adelphia.net href="mailto:cfacklam@adelphia.net">Chuck
Facklmam</A> ; <A title=mandolin@rochester.rr.com
href="mailto:mandolin@rochester.rr.com">SAM ANDOLINA</A> ; <A
title=Richmarymcclive@aol.com href="mailto:Richmarymcclive@aol.com">Rich
McClive</A> ; <A title=KB2HBA@twcny.rr.com
href="mailto:KB2HBA@twcny.rr.com">David Robinson</A> ; <A
title=chuckflo2@cs.com href="mailto:chuckflo2@cs.com">Chuck Littman</A> ; <A
title=flamingofarm@earthlink.net
href="mailto:flamingofarm@earthlink.net">Jeff Clark</A> ; <A
title=scg-list@tiger.skiblack.com
href="mailto:scg-list@tiger.skiblack.com">scg-list@tiger.skiblack.com</A> ;
<A title=chevrobilia@juno.com href="mailto:chevrobilia@juno.com">"Dave
Newell"</A> ; <A title=chelvis@camano.net
href="mailto:chelvis@camano.net">"Bill Chellis"</A> ; <A
title=kentsu@corvairkid.com href="mailto:kentsu@corvairkid.com">"Kent
Sullivan"</A> ; <A title=richard.w.thompson@usa.dupont.com
href="mailto:richard.w.thompson@usa.dupont.com">"Rich Thompson"</A> ; <A
title=airvair@richnet.net
href="mailto:airvair@richnet.net">airvair@richnet.net</A> ; <A
title=corsabod@corvair.org href="mailto:corsabod@corvair.org">"CORSA/CPF
BoD"</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, November 29, 2005 11:14
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: SCG meeting</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Sorry....I now understand that we, the SCG and
the FourClubs were underinformed; and we did not realize that all the
special interest groups had to have exactly the same scheduling treatment at
the Convention.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Also the same "we" were unaware that the
National Convention is not large enough in its scope that it can not have
parallel tracks in it's event structure to meet the diverse needs of its
membership...single threaded schedule hmmm....a very retrogressive
concept...</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>dme out...</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=mr.vair@urbancom.net href="mailto:mr.vair@urbancom.net">Larry
Claypool</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=sarahvair@juno.com
href="mailto:sarahvair@juno.com">sarahvair@juno.com</A> ; <A
title=hljensen@comcast.net
href="mailto:hljensen@comcast.net">hljensen@comcast.net</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A title=corsabod@corvair.org
href="mailto:corsabod@corvair.org">"CORSA/CPF BoD"</A> ; <A
title=airvair@richnet.net
href="mailto:airvair@richnet.net">airvair@richnet.net</A> ; <A
title=richard.w.thompson@usa.dupont.com
href="mailto:richard.w.thompson@usa.dupont.com">"Rich Thompson"</A> ; <A
title=sgeast@interlog.com href="mailto:sgeast@interlog.com">"Stan
East"</A> ; <A title=mandolin@rochester.rr.com
href="mailto:mandolin@rochester.rr.com">mandolin@rochester.rr.com</A> ; <A
title=kentsu@corvairkid.com href="mailto:kentsu@corvairkid.com">"Kent
Sullivan"</A> ; <A title=dellis1@rochester.rr.com
href="mailto:dellis1@rochester.rr.com">"DaveEllis"</A> ; <A
title=chelvis@camano.net href="mailto:chelvis@camano.net">"Bill
Chellis"</A> ; <A title=chevrobilia@juno.com
href="mailto:chevrobilia@juno.com">"Dave Newell"</A> ; <A
title=scg-list@tiger.skiblack.com
href="mailto:scg-list@tiger.skiblack.com">scg-list@tiger.skiblack.com</A>
</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, November 29, 2005
11:21 AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> SCG meeting</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>gentlemen-</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2> the corsa board,
convention folks, etc are not denying the SCG a meeting; this is not a
"Corsa VS. STG". we recognize the SCG and have planned all along
to scheduled a time slot that is as long as any other special
interest group @ 90 minutes. we have additionally tried to schedule it
during daylight hours so you can opt to have your meeting outside if you
wish to do the car by car look over.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2> convention scheduling is a
very difficult task. we (harry, myself, sarah, chuck, stan, and
the <FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3>andolinos)sp</FONT>ent much
time trying to slot everything into the available time. we have 69
line items on this year's schedule and only 4 days to hold them all. of
particular circumstance this year is 2 major evening events, a dinner
cruise on friday and a CPF presentation (building the corvair engine) on
thursday, so we effectively "lost' two evenings where we would
normally hold some of the special interest meetings. do you want to have a
STG meeting the same time as the dinner cruise? neither does any other
group. we have in the past tried to keep all the special interest groups
in their own non conflicting meeting time, but of late, because of the
tight schedule, now have corvanatics, V8 registry, and oil filter
collectors at the same time. this year we added SCG to the list; we
had to overlap ultra van and the STG meeting to make it all fit. our
event schedule already starts at 8 am or earlier every day and runs to 10
pm.or later, so we don't really have room to go earlier/later in the day.
do we move meetings to tuesday? nobody wants to schedule their meeting
then because it's early on and it's generally felt not everybody will be
there yet. unless we are proposing adding a day to the convention- which
is a completely different topic- we are just flat out of time to add any
more non conflicting events to the schedule.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2> announcing the STG meeting
day and time over VV before the convention schedule itself had been worked
out was premature. we don't know how the schedule for a given convention
looks until the convention committee sits down with the local hosts
and sorts one out that is the most reasonable , non conflicting schedule
we can do given the days available. i believe we did that.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2> i am sorry there were not
slots available for the SCG to hold a regular chapter meeting
<STRONG><EM>AND</EM></STRONG> a SCG event in the lot without going
timewise against some other convention events. the SCG can utilize
it's scheduled time slot on thursday 3:30-5:00 PM any way you like.
and, as sarah mentioned, if at the conclusion of that meeting, if you feel
there's more to cover and want to organize an unofficial gathering at some
other time during the convention, that's ok with us- it just won't
be on the published schedule.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2> in summary, i want to
restate that this whole recent SCG thread has been taking a "Corsa
VS. SCG", and that is not the case. the convention committee is
simply trying to schedule the SCG meeting- along with the 7 other special
interest groups chapters- in reasonable time slots along with all the
other many events and tours that make up a corsa convention</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>best regards</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>larry claypool</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
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