[FC] Logo take-down rebuttal

Marty Scarr martyscarr at gmail.com
Thu May 30 12:34:57 EDT 2024


I believe it is this one:
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On Thu, May 30, 2024 at 8:38 AM Rod Murray via Corvanatics <
corvanatics at corvair.org> wrote:

> What’s the image in question?
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On May 30, 2024, at 11:04 AM, Ben and Lynn Stiles via Corvanatics <
> corvanatics at corvair.org> wrote:
> >
> > EXTERNAL EMAIL : Do not click any links or open any attachments unless
> you trust the sender and know the content is safe.
> >
> > Hi Molly,
> >
> > I drafted the following. Let me know what you think. It's all I could
> come up with based on the limited information we were given.
> >
> > Thanks! Ben
> >
> >
> > Good afternoon,
> >
> > The Board of Directors of the Corvanatics group (the oldest chapter of
> the Corvair Society of America; CORSA) would like more information on this
> take-down request. According the email we received, the take-down request
> was issued by a Volkswagen organization of some kind, with no connection to
> the Corvair marque, nor to the light duty Corvair trucks made during the
> early 1960s. The logo in question has been in continuous use by the
> Corvanatics use since the early 1970s, and, to our knowledge, has never
> been under any scrutiny for any reason.
> >
> > The Corvanatics Board of Directors are formally requesting a copy of the
> specific take-down request issued by Volkswagen AG so that we may
> understand more fully the rationale behind this unfortunate circumstance.
> >
> > We will await your response.
> >
> > Sincerely,
> >
> > Corvanatics BOD
> >
> > *From:* Ben and Lynn Stiles <lbstiles at verizon.net>
> > *Sent:* Wednesday, May 8, 2024 8:32 PM
> > *To:* Dr. Benjamin Stiles <BStiles at lancasterctc.edu>
> > *Subject:*
> >
> > CAUTION:This email originated from outside of the organization. Do not
> click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know
> the content is safe.
> >
> >
> >
> > -------- Forwarded Message --------
> >
> > *Subject: *
> >
> >
> >
> > Fw: Your Design Has Been Removed From TeePublic
> >
> > *Date: *
> >
> >
> >
> > Thu, 2 May 2024 15:37:59 +0000 (UTC)
> >
> > *From: *
> >
> >
> >
> > Corvanatics <corvanatics at gmail.com> <mailto:corvanatics at gmail.com>
> >
> > *Reply-To: *
> >
> >
> >
> > Corvanatics <corvanatics at gmail.com> <mailto:corvanatics at gmail.com>
> >
> > *To: *
> >
> >
> >
> > Stiles Ben <lbstiles at verizon.net> <mailto:lbstiles at verizon.net>
> >
> > Hi Ben,
> >
> > Your first assignment as a Director since you have the writing
> background.
> >
> > As you saw in my BoD online correspondence recently, we dropped
> CafePress as an online on demand store. I found a couple others to use,
> both offer different items and at different prices. On TEEPUBLIC, I had
> included, besides the logo, this design, which is the one they received a
> complaint on (see attached email). (The background is transparent, not
> black. I just work in dark mode and did a screen shot).
> >
> > Attached is their email. Steve S sent me "I suggest that you just ask
> for a copy of the take down request.  Explain that the Corvanatics logo has
> been in use and widely published for 46 years." You've also been in the
> club for a very long time. I just don't want them to get away with this
> without some counter action. I'm sure it will have to come from the club
> email as that is what the account is registered under, so if you will just
> write up something, I will send it, but change my normal signature to you
> as a Director. Thanks.
> >
> > Inline image
> >
> > */Molly Bacon/*
> >
> > Corvanatics Secretary/Treasurer
> >
> >
> https://link.edgepilot.com/s/442dec5c/UPx-Am0CbUygmfSoqu4vlg?u=http://www.corvair.org/chapters/corvanatics/index.php
> <
> https://link.edgepilot.com/s/564ce83a/sAME04MJfk2eA3inrk6G1Q?u=https://www.corvair.org/chapters/corvanatics/index.php
> >
> >
> > ----- Forwarded Message -----
> >
> > *From:*TeePublic <legal at teepublic.com> <mailto:legal at teepublic.com>
> >
> > *To:*"corvanatics at gmail.com" <mailto:corvanatics at gmail.com><
> corvanatics at gmail.com> <mailto:corvanatics at gmail.com>
> >
> > *Sent:*Tuesday, April 30, 2024 at 01:52:04 PM EDT
> >
> > *Subject:*Your Design Has Been Removed From TeePublic
> >
> > TeePublic Logo <
> https://link.edgepilot.com/s/5e1a442e/WxxOfng1NUeehOE1hWR7CA?u=http://links.teepublic.com/ls/click?upn=u001.sInb-2F3YQM6GjAipW0UHsanSb-2Fxd20ANJU9XIucrUrChEL0kPb8dqXFl8FTTXWxsC2BTz_mnyVpGey4cYz-2B5iKoJRAuokw69LZhj1FoTXsHRDomf5haUjYi-2BNnvIIe1FEyk6n1yMc1zSO0HqmtIDiTVXF8ECKwKMkojCKXiQIX6KAVRH7nGrD4VArsJIWUlcUwj8mLVfpeTfjPVZKYqo98EWyeCCuDvZ4jGo0kOkmW2hNDz5ARszwEmwtjmo6omZRsKUFFET0T2a-2Bu2lsCUzeg8xS585NSY3VMNrROcBl4GTbTAEzzdnxNTy8EZGJIZdRGHT1rt46u6evCRe0IsidHtK3oeqOEhNL-2BcGSxAKbbEuU-2F8-2Fz-2B6auYhGREJxPS8mIlkdzDG-2FBBi3PQ-2B0j0DjtaNICmfnxM0S8ZTwrtSpHcwJTzqnJxx2kLUTpc9nt9WOfAHb7Q
> >
> >
> > *DMCA Takedown Notice *
> >
> > Dear Corvanatics,
> >
> > We're sorry to inform you that an intellectual property claim has been
> filed by *Volkswagen AG* against this design of yours on TeePublic:
> >
> >
> > *FCs with CORSA Seal*
> >
> > *How This Works*
> > Unfortunately, we have no say in which designs stay or go. According to
> our Intellectual Property Policy <
> https://link.edgepilot.com/s/b8282efc/RM3TbYnVF0ufdSZBj9mDVQ?u=http://links.teepublic.com/ls/click?upn=u001.sInb-2F3YQM6GjAipW0UHsanSb-2Fxd20ANJU9XIucrUrChz2PFQyGRqNhpnJH4uNwMaKRz3rnTsq9Y-2B2mTLXxVXew-3D-3DxDkq_mnyVpGey4cYz-2B5iKoJRAuokw69LZhj1FoTXsHRDomf5haUjYi-2BNnvIIe1FEyk6n1yMc1zSO0HqmtIDiTVXF8ECKwKMkojCKXiQIX6KAVRH7nGrD4VArsJIWUlcUwj8mLVfpeTfjPVZKYqo98EWyeCCuDvZ4jGo0kOkmW2hNDz5ARszwEmwtjmo6omZRsKUFFET0T2a-2Bu2lsCUzeg8xS585NSY3VMNrROcBl4GTbTAEyz2AIj5ASdkrMkSOTVjtHebIbPsCbDU1o0EZsng7Nu8sqOEkee5k1ByTPSt89nd8zgvOnRpzJGyVQZ0iDU7vxGdcXZL5UoQzQWFINYPsDcx8yJK7mHaHMXIc6dv4KWQKl4AQ3cMwa7uwdyl3b8Thse>and
> the law, we are required to remove designs when a rightsholder sends us a
> valid takedown request. For more information, you can check out this
> article <
> https://link.edgepilot.com/s/d418852e/eVi57HhmFEiHdmSbDqARRA?u=http://links.teepublic.com/ls/click?upn=u001.rtGuEBJgdg53H4k8aM9Xe74-2B20HAoKN-2BQUqFlMS7YcZVvpIUps1qqWIb14bhplxKf2P4wJjvewNKyb07WEphe-2Bre5XCAPNDS-2F9mSTbe3gUa8-2B3XVdlv1fkSOB6qDXS219hDe_mnyVpGey4cYz-2B5iKoJRAuokw69LZhj1FoTXsHRDomf5haUjYi-2BNnvIIe1FEyk6n1yMc1zSO0HqmtIDiTVXF8ECKwKMkojCKXiQIX6KAVRH7nGrD4VArsJIWUlcUwj8mLVfpeTfjPVZKYqo98EWyeCCuDvZ4jGo0kOkmW2hNDz5ARszwEmwtjmo6omZRsKUFFET0T2a-2Bu2lsCUzeg8xS585NSY3VMNrROcBl4GTbTAEwneJ-2BTHJXg9wno35WHI7fAJmowacQWH177V8kk5QcaJoyuG8T7o6vuQbrGW4TpAcbTkNnsYJtChjkSgYh0rVAyuqIlfGp7cIGrzEH-2FJ45FE4EqtZuzmyoeDbal-2BzssTua6m8u6-2FiDxTSP92M4r4dnd>or
> read the DMCA in full here <
> https://link.edgepilot.com/s/d965c552/jQW97LdlHEuopJ8eomUx6A?u=http://links.teepublic.com/ls/click?upn=u001.sInb-2F3YQM6GjAipW0UHsakBRUFs1G7daQsO7BAuETKeHii4owLzlO8PFcgTh90ZHGbhpLpu5iX7TlOdWU7TiKg-3D-3D1Qu2_mnyVpGey4cYz-2B5iKoJRAuokw69LZhj1FoTXsHRDomf5haUjYi-2BNnvIIe1FEyk6n1yMc1zSO0HqmtIDiTVXF8ECKwKMkojCKXiQIX6KAVRH7nGrD4VArsJIWUlcUwj8mLVfpeTfjPVZKYqo98EWyeCCuDvZ4jGo0kOkmW2hNDz5ARszwEmwtjmo6omZRsKUFFET0T2a-2Bu2lsCUzeg8xS585NSY3VMNrROcBl4GTbTAExo7MBk0E-2FDy4Fg0Eif34jcoFmNXwAH6N3OzjMGf-2F4Xtw-2B4yI5IGvMXy-2BZO4cfVQWtp6lXsncwEnP7WtDGlbzdK-2Byp8ODX1upQG9dko7oGJlRNx-2Be6hm8eepBZA-2BBBbAK7hN3Zw-2BsnbB5DVaBhUzEbB
> >.
> >
> > *A Note From Us*
> > We know takedowns can be frustrating and at times feel vague, but I hope
> you can appreciate that we have to comply with the procedures required by
> the DMCA and similar laws. If you truly believe this was a mistake or want
> to file a counterclaim, please don't hesitate to reply to this e-mail.
> >
> > *Sincerely,**
> > *TeePublic**
> >
> > TeePublic.com © 2023 is a U.S. Registered Mark of TP Apparel LLC.
> > All Rights Reserved.
> >
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> >
> >
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> Rod Murray
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