[FC] Sound Deadening
wild8bill at aol.com
wild8bill at aol.com
Thu Jan 21 12:34:44 EST 2010
Forgive the length, but I wanted to include all info
Someone hit it on the head (pardon the coming pun ), the metal panels act
like a drum. To keep an area quiet, you need to stop the metal from
vibrating, as well as absorb the soundwaves from the source.
The metal side panels can be removed and a dense rubber/foam/tar-like
material applied to them from behind to prevent them from vibrating. Products
include Brown Bread, Dynamat and others designed for this purpose, but most
are expensive. I have used the 1/8" thick rubber/tar self-adhesive building
material tape designed for sealing window and door frames during
construction with some success. The dense, soft rubber floor mats designed for use at
workstations on cement are excellent at absorbing soundwaves, and can be
cut and attached with adhesive to the inside of the side panels, and can
also be fitted as a mat to place on top of the engine compartment or used
under carpet. It should be noted that to effectively stop metal panels from
vibrating any material needs to be securely affixed to the metal, usually with
adhesive, and not just screwed, taped or propped against it.
To reduce noise from the source (engine), another little physics lesson
needs to be understood. Soundwaves are made by the movement of air, and move
from the source like ripples on a pond when you toss a rock in. You can
seal off movement of air from the area of the source and that will
significantly reduce the decibel level. However, the material used will absorb the
vibrations and transfer them through to the other side and release them. The
denser and less rigid the material the less it will vibrate sympathetically.
Multiple layers that are separated so they don't directly transfer the
vibrations to each other will further reduce the decibels. Higher pitched
sounds have less "power", and are the easiest to stop. Low pitch sounds have
much more "power", and are difficult to stop with sound (air wave) absorbing
material, a real-life example of this are the cars you can hear "thumping"
from blocks away when they have their sound system turned way up.
So, after all that, the absolute BEST way to reduce noise inside a
Greenbrier would be to strip every interior body panel, flooring material,
headliner etc. out and completely line everything with Dynamat or equivalent and
then re-install everything. Use the heat resistant material to line the
engine compartment and inside the tranny access panel, place new weather seal
foam on the lip of the engine compartment and tranny access panel and secure
tightly. Cut a piece of anti-fatigue floormat to fit over the engine
compartment area. If you do all this, your Greenbrier should be as quiet as a new
$50k SUV.
A cheaper way to do the same would be to attach the fore mentioned
construction sealing tape to at least half the surface area of the back of
interior panels, install carpet pad or in the case of rubber floors; the 1/8"
thick foam used when installing laminate flooring, under the flooring material,
and make a cover to fit over the engine compartment. If you haul stuff, you
can make a cover out of 3/8-1/2 plywood that is backed underneath by foam
or other padding that is easily removed and will withstand scrapes and
bumps. If it's REALLY a work truck, you could make side panels out of 1/8-1/4"
plywood and back them with foam that fit over the surface of the inside,
making the screw holes match the existing ones (window handles would need to
be removed or adapted).
Road noise is made up of tire noise and wind, some tires are louder than
others. Blocky tread patterns are loud, where "highway" tread with continuous
rubber are much quieter. Wind noise is usually part of body design, and
the only way to reduce it is to line the interior of the cab. Large sideview
mirrors will cause wind noise.
I have a friend with a Unimog, and there is only a single layer of sheet
metal between the engine and the cab, it is LOUD inside. He installed a
layer of heat resistant material inside the engine compartment and it reduced
the decibels by at least half.
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