[FC] Re: Corvan versus GreenbriEr and more

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     This is a modified repost since my last post didnt come thru like I 
typed it with my responses in blue colored ink. I ll mark my responses in this 
post for easier reading.

In a message dated 8/24/2006 9:50:49 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
LonzoVair at aol.com writes:

 >>LON>>      So, what you're saying is ALL van makers now have returned to 
the  
production 
error as far as the 8 door models are concerned? Chevy now makes a  full size 

van with twin doors on both sides, and they are mirror images as the  
GreenbriEr was... and all mini-vans have doors that slide to the rear... 
with  door handles to the front... production error? 

 >>me>> (A) Lon,now that a day or so has passed and your blood pressure has 
returned to normal I ll address this. First off, mini vans cant even be 
considered 
since their doors arent the same.  It would be extremely difficult for 
several 
reasons to have them slide forward so they had to be different. 
Furthermore,Im 
talking back then,not nowdays where money is abused and discarded like toilet 

paper. 
 >>me>>  (B)    Error?......maybe,I dunno. Perhaps "design oversight" may 
sound less harsh and more appropriate to those "people of Corvair Passion" like 
yourself. 
Have you ever seen it in print from Chevrolet claiming what a great feature 
it was to support the fact that it was done on purpose as a design advantage 
over ther competition? And if so,why didnt that feature carry on to the regular 
line of Chevy and GMC 8 door vans from 64-66 and 67- 70? Were they cutting 
costs? Correcting an oversight? Afterall,its the same manufacturer as the Vair. 
Im not arguing with you,Im just curious and Im one of those guys that likes to 
know the details of all the early FC vehicles. Heck I cant argue now that you 
posted that mushy Im sorry stuff. Dont worry,I wasnt offended. I honestly 
laughed my butt off as I read it. I know you and how you luv the Vairs which made 
it all the more comical to me. For the record,I wish all the 8 door vans had 
been made that way. It is a good feature but overall costs definitely were  
factors as evidenced by the name Ford gave its van, "Econo" line....meaning the 
Economy line of trucks and vans.

 >>LON>>      Just because someone does something different DOESN'T mean it's 

wrong...  VWs 
also had a 3 door crew cab truck... before all the others... does it mean  
Jeep was wrong in making an FC170 with 4 doors?
      
>>Me>>  (C) I never said it was wrong and I dont think any of those designs 
are 
wrong either. I was speaking purely from a monetary standpoint as far as 
production costs.

>>LON>> Silly, silly, silly.... I know I've seen an early VW bus with left 
side  
extra doors (before they went to a slider, so it's pre-68 or so)... and I 
think  
they were mirror doors too...

   >>ME>> (D) A kid in Cincinnati has one of those that I see on occasion. I 
ll have to 
look at it closer when I see it next time. New site member Randy Coburn who 
is 
into the VW's may be able to answer that one for us.

>>LON>> And then there's that whole engine placement thing.... just because 
it's in  
the back and doesn't have a radiator, how can that be wrong? 
       
>>Me>> (E) Uhm,I give up. Who said it was? No argument here,it's just 
different.
     
 >>LON>>        No more wrong than  the Econolines with the engine between 
the 
seats... they don't put them 
there  now... they've moved them forward a few feet so you don't have ANY leg 


room... 
  >>ME>> (F)     Now Lon,you know it's simply not true that Ford made 
anything wrong on their vans:-) Ok,ok, like you ,Im a wee bit biased but in reality 
very open 
to all the early vans and have owned at least one of all of them. A Chevy man 

originally,Im really only into the Econolines due to Dad and Grandpa owning 
them while I was growing up. As far as leg room,for the folks that havent met 

you,you wouldnt be comfortable in stretch limo :-)  Folks, Lon towers over me 
and 
Im 5'10". He is one big dude,not quite the harmless little fuzz ball he 
claims to be:-)

>>LON>> Tim, for what it's worth, your perceived production error is a stroke 
of  
genius to me... I think the left side doors on a Greenbrier are way cool!

>>Me>> (G)   I totally agree they are "way cool" and wish the Fords were made 
that 
way.

>>LON>> As for window options, there was a Corvan in Dry Ridge in a junk yard 
that  
had the rear side long windows, but no other windows past the front doors  
(including the back doors... solid)... it was at the "school bus graveyard"  
there 
on 25 

 >>ME>> (H)      School bus graveyard did you say? I ll have to check that 
out since my next years project has a school bus custom theme to it. Its gonna 
be 
sweet,like no other I ve found on the net yet.

>>Harmless fuzzball,I mean LON>>Any takers on your van yet? Just wondering...

   >>ME>>    The wifes had me so busy rehabbing the house that I havent even 
had 
time to list it yet. A few tire kickers via email but nothing serious. I 
guess I 
better get on the stick before winter creeps up on me again.

  >>TOWERING LON :-) >>     You clearly see the point I was trying to make... 
don't ya?
:-)
  >>Wee little me>>     Yep,I understand what you meant,no harm done.
      All's cool in van land


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