BSCC- Plate

Sat May 17 13:11:42 EDT 2008

Hey John. Would you rather we discuss cups or saucers? 

----- Original Message ----
From: "jcwingle at comcast.net" <jcwingle at comcast.net>
To: Bay State Corvairs (MA) <bsc-list at corvair.org>
Sent: Saturday, May 17, 2008 12:13:10 PM
Subject: Re: BSCC- Plate

Enough with the PLATE. Can we move on?

<grin>

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From: David McMillan <dmac632000 at yahoo.com> 

Not confusing Pete.
If you remove the plate (which is what was intended for winter), then heat rises from the engine and warms the oil cooler (radiator as you say) quicker than with the plate in place. The car will achieve optimum operating temp quicker in those cold winter months.

Cynthia. No, this should not make your car overheat. What would make it overheat is blocked passages in your oil cooler. The cooler is designed to allow oil from the engine to flow through it and there are tiny air holes or vents that allow air to flow though to cool the oil passing through the cooler. 'Hot' spark plugs could also cause overheating. Excessive gaps in the engine seal (around the perimeter of the engine) could contribute to ineffective cooling. A rag or debris sitting on top of the cylinders underneath the top shroud (or turkey baster as it is sometimes referred to) preventing cooloing air from flowing through the engine compartment properly...the list goes on as far as causes.

Dave

----- Original Message ----
From: peter cuipenski <cuipenski at bellsouth.net>
To: Bay State Corvairs (MA) <bsc-list at corvair.org>
Sent: Saturday, May 17, 2008 10:31:38 AM
Subject: Re: BSCC- Plate

The much talked about  "plate" is located to the left of oil filter,or directly under the filter,if A/C equippted.Attop the plate is direction's for summer or winter operation.The plate cover's the corvair's "radiator".Why i call it the radiator,anything that has a liquid [oil] flowing through it,to be cooled, is a radiator that disapate's heat,aka oil cooler.This will allow one to say,that the corvair has a radiator.Conventional vehicle have radiator's, and not known as coolant cooler's.O.K. Pete,let's not get technical,adding to the confusion. Pete Cuipenski, Fanning Spring's, Fl.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: Jim Bengiovanni 
To: Bay State Corvairs (MA) 
Sent: Saturday, May 17, 2008 9:12 AM
Subject: Re: BSCC- Plate

Cynthia,

Since I started this  I thought I would reply even though you sent it to Steve. I've since found out that early's also have the plate..

If you have a 2007-2012 Clark's catalogue, look at the bottom of page 104 for their info on the plates/cover.

I have to believe if it was not removed for the summer it would make the engine run hotter, but I;m not a tech person, just a wanabe.

Jim B

From: cynthiabon at comcast.net 
To: Bay State Corvairs (MA) 
Sent: Friday, May 16, 2008 2:17 PM
Subject: Re: BSCC- Plate

Steve,

What do I look for on my car? for this plate? Is that something that would make my car overheat on the highway in the summer?

Cynthia

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From: "Jim Bengiovanni" <jimb26 at verizon.net> 

Steve,

I have the plate so I'm all set.  Do all models have it or just the lates?

I checked my crossmember and the only bad section is where the passengers strut rod attaches and I've cut a plate for that area.

Since I'm now in the process of installing new upper and lower A arm bushings along with adjusting  bolts I don't think I'd be interested in replacing the one on the car.  Currently I have the passengers side completely done and the drivers upper is off being painted prior to being reinstalled.  Only the lower drivers side is left to do.  New upper ball joints, outer tie rod ends and sway bar bushings also have been replaced.  Shocks only have less than 1000 miles on them.  Also have done the front brakes over.  So you can understand me not wishing to change my current crossmember.

If I was interested in having a "spare", how much would you want for one?  What would it come with?

Have a great weekend.

Jim B

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: steve boyden 
To: Bay State Corvairs (MA) 
Sent: Friday, May 16, 2008 10:31 AM
Subject: Re: BSCC- Plate

Hi Jim, 
     Many people discarded them over the years. There function is to help control air flow and more specifically temperature of the engine during warm up and operation. It is supposed to be installed - covering the hole - during summer operation. I'm sure I have extras if your interested. I also have two late model crossmembers I'd like to part with. They are taking up too much room and I'd like to see them go. Let me know if your interested.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: Jim Bengiovanni 
To: Bay State Corvairs (MA) 
Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2008 7:58 AM
Subject: BSCC- Plate

Club Members,

Just a reminder to change over the winter/summer plate in the engine compartment.  Some people may know it as a summer/winter plate. While changing my oil & filter I noticed that I hadn't done mine.

Unable to attend this weekend RI event, sorry.

Jim B

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